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With the present <strong class='StrictlyAutoTagBold'>use<\/strong> and move to upgrade, it will most likely become \u201cantique\u201d (100 years old) and still be analog, ker-chunking, systems.&#160; <\/p>\n<p>I have been in Amateur <strong class='StrictlyAutoTagBold'>radio<\/strong> long enough to confirm that the technology of the \u201c50\u2019s\u201d (although I would have more related it to the late 60\u2019s and 70\u2019s) is not what we should be protecting.&#160;&#160; When I was first licensed in the mid 70\u2019s repeaters were few but they were well used.&#160; I could get on almost any time of <strong class='StrictlyAutoTagBold'>day<\/strong> or night and strike up a conversation with someone or call to get help, directions, etc.&#160; Today, it is rare that I call and get an answer.&#160; I monitor the local repeaters when I am out and seldom hear anything more than the every present \u201cker-chunking\u201d.&#160; Yes they are still up and working, so say something!&#160; Even though I monitor them I carry my new \u201csmart-phone\u201d and it gets more <strong class='StrictlyAutoTagBold'>use<\/strong> than my dual bander.&#160; Crap, it is way smaller, has <strong class='StrictlyAutoTagBold'>millions<\/strong> of more uses and flexibility and costs less (well not including a monthly service charge).&#160; Yes when all other lines of communication fail Amateur Radio can get through but just how much real <strong class='StrictlyAutoTagBold'>use<\/strong> is there for that limited, occasional need?&#160; My excuse for using the smart phone more is that I am needing to talk to people that are not \u201cradio-active\u201d.&#160; <\/p>\n<p>I have to consider that if a portion of the 440 <strong class='StrictlyAutoTagBold'>band<\/strong> was given up to <strong class='StrictlyAutoTagBold'>benefit<\/strong> <strong class='StrictlyAutoTagBold'>millions<\/strong> of people, and that <strong class='StrictlyAutoTagBold'>benefit<\/strong> was on a daily basis, then maybe that is justification enough and what we <strong class='StrictlyAutoTagBold'>need<\/strong> to do?&#160; 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