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Latest from the WSJ\u2026on CEO pay<\/a><\/p>\n

Selectively I picked the oil and gas<\/strong> group as I have way too much holding in that group as far as investments\u2026 didn\u2019t sell enough when I should have but \u2026. oh well\u2026 <\/p>\n

Two in particular stick out to me\u2026comparable service company<\/strong> CEO\u2019s\u2026 one<\/strong> stock<\/strong> only went down 3.6% but the CEO<\/strong> pay<\/strong> dropped 18.9%\u2026 the other the stock<\/strong> dropped by 21.6% and he only lost 1.5% in pay?  <\/p>\n

Who is getting paid for performance here?  <\/p>\n\n\n\n\n
<\/font>57<\/font><\/td>\n<\/font>Lesar, David J.<\/font><\/td>\n<\/font>Halliburton<\/font><\/td>\n<\/font>-21.6%<\/font><\/td>\n<\/font>$20.6 Million<\/font><\/td>\n<\/font>-1.5%<\/font><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
<\/font>78<\/font><\/td>\n<\/font>Kibsgaard, Paal<\/font><\/td>\n<\/font>Schlumberger<\/font><\/td>\n<\/font>-3.6%<\/font><\/td>\n<\/font>$18.5 Million<\/font><\/td>\n<\/font>-18.9%<\/font><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n

But in comparison to the total of the oil and gas<\/strong> industry big shot?  <\/p>\n

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<\/font>CEO Pay vs. Performance<\/font><\/h1>\n<\/p><\/div>\n

<\/font>Executive compensation is increasingly geared toward results, but some CEOs still got big paydays even when their investors didn\u2019t do so well.<\/font><\/h2>\n
<\/font>Published June 24, 2015<\/font><\/div>\n
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<\/font>2014 Pay Rank<\/font><\/th>\n<\/font>CEO<\/font><\/th>\n<\/font>Company<\/font><\/th>\n<\/font>Shareholder Return<\/font><\/th>\n<\/font>Total Pay<\/font><\/th>\n<\/font>One-Year Change in Pay<\/font><\/th>\n<\/tr>\n<\/thead>\n
<\/font>12<\/font><\/td>\n<\/font>Tillerson, Rex W.<\/font><\/td>\n<\/font>ExxonMobil<\/font><\/td>\n<\/font>-6.1%<\/font><\/td>\n<\/font>$33.1 Million<\/font><\/td>\n<\/font>+17.6%<\/font><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
<\/font>25<\/font><\/td>\n<\/font>Lance, Ryan M.<\/font><\/td>\n<\/font>ConocoPhillips<\/font><\/td>\n<\/font>+1.5%<\/font><\/td>\n<\/font>$27.6 Million<\/font><\/td>\n<\/font>+17.7%<\/font><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
<\/font>29<\/font><\/td>\n<\/font>Watson, John S.<\/font><\/td>\n<\/font>Chevron<\/font><\/td>\n<\/font>-7.0%<\/font><\/td>\n<\/font>$26.0 Million<\/font><\/td>\n<\/font>+8.1%<\/font><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
<\/font>34<\/font><\/td>\n<\/font>Garland, Greg C.<\/font><\/td>\n<\/font>Phillips 66<\/font><\/td>\n<\/font>-4.8%<\/font><\/td>\n<\/font>$24.5 Million<\/font><\/td>\n<\/font>+23.5%<\/font><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
<\/font>44<\/font><\/td>\n<\/font>Hess, John B.<\/font><\/td>\n<\/font>Hess<\/font><\/td>\n<\/font>-10.0%<\/font><\/td>\n<\/font>$22.5 Million<\/font><\/td>\n<\/font>+39.0%<\/font><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
<\/font>50<\/font><\/td>\n<\/font>Richels, John<\/font><\/td>\n<\/font>Devon Energy<\/font><\/td>\n<\/font>+0.4%<\/font><\/td>\n<\/font>$21.6 Million<\/font><\/td>\n<\/font>+210.5%<\/font><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
<\/font>54<\/font><\/td>\n<\/font>Goff, Gregory J.<\/font><\/td>\n<\/font>Tesoro<\/font><\/td>\n<\/font>+29.4%<\/font><\/td>\n<\/font>$20.9 Million<\/font><\/td>\n<\/font>+58.3%<\/font><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
<\/font>55<\/font><\/td>\n<\/font>Walker, R. A.<\/font><\/td>\n<\/font>Anadarko Petroleum<\/font><\/td>\n<\/font>+5.1%<\/font><\/td>\n<\/font>$20.7 Million<\/font><\/td>\n<\/font>+22.5%<\/font><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
<\/font>57<\/font><\/td>\n<\/font>Lesar, David J.<\/font><\/td>\n<\/font>Halliburton<\/font><\/td>\n<\/font>-21.6%<\/font><\/td>\n<\/font>$20.6 Million<\/font><\/td>\n<\/font>-1.5%<\/font><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
<\/font>78<\/font><\/td>\n<\/font>Kibsgaard, Paal<\/font><\/td>\n<\/font>Schlumberger<\/font><\/td>\n<\/font>-3.6%<\/font><\/td>\n<\/font>$18.5 Million<\/font><\/td>\n<\/font>-18.9%<\/font><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
<\/font>96<\/font><\/td>\n<\/font>Heminger, Gary R.<\/font><\/td>\n<\/font>Marathon Petroleum<\/font><\/td>\n<\/font>+0.4%<\/font><\/td>\n<\/font>$16.4 Million<\/font><\/td>\n<\/font>+33.6%<\/font><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
<\/font>100<\/font><\/td>\n<\/font>Gorder, Joseph W.<\/font><\/td>\n<\/font>Valero Energy<\/font><\/td>\n<\/font>+0.2%<\/font><\/td>\n<\/font>$16.1 Million<\/font><\/td>\n<\/font>—<\/font><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
<\/font>117<\/font><\/td>\n<\/font>Duroc-Danner, Bernard J.<\/font><\/td>\n<\/font>Weatherford<\/font><\/td>\n<\/font>-26.1%<\/font><\/td>\n<\/font>$14.9 Million<\/font><\/td>\n<\/font>+13.4%<\/font><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
<\/font>125<\/font><\/td>\n<\/font>Craighead, Martin S.<\/font><\/td>\n<\/font>Baker Hughes<\/font><\/td>\n<\/font>+2.5%<\/font><\/td>\n<\/font>$14.7 Million<\/font><\/td>\n<\/font>+63.6%<\/font><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
<\/font>127<\/font><\/td>\n<\/font>Lawler, Robert D. (Doug)<\/font><\/td>\n<\/font>Chesapeake Energy<\/font><\/td>\n<\/font>-22.6%<\/font><\/td>\n<\/font>$14.7 Million<\/font><\/td>\n<\/font>—<\/font><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
<\/font>136<\/font><\/td>\n<\/font>Newman, Steven L.<\/font><\/td>\n<\/font>Transocean<\/font><\/td>\n<\/font>-59.9%<\/font><\/td>\n<\/font>$14.2 Million<\/font><\/td>\n<\/font>+2.2%<\/font><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
<\/font>187<\/font><\/td>\n<\/font>Tillman, Lee M.<\/font><\/td>\n<\/font>Marathon Oil<\/font><\/td>\n<\/font>-18.0%<\/font><\/td>\n<\/font>$11.5 Million<\/font><\/td>\n<\/font>—<\/font><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
<\/font>199<\/font><\/td>\n<\/font>Williams, Clay C.<\/font><\/td>\n<\/font>National Oilwell Varco<\/font><\/td>\n<\/font>-6.6%<\/font><\/td>\n<\/font>$10.9 Million<\/font><\/td>\n<\/font>—<\/font><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
<\/font>203<\/font><\/td>\n<\/font>Thomas, William R.<\/font><\/td>\n<\/font>EOG Resources<\/font><\/td>\n<\/font>+10.3%<\/font><\/td>\n<\/font>$10.5 Million<\/font><\/td>\n<\/font>—<\/font><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
<\/font>206<\/font><\/td>\n<\/font>Moore, Jack B.<\/font><\/td>\n<\/font>Cameron International<\/font><\/td>\n<\/font>-16.1%<\/font><\/td>\n<\/font>$10.3 Million<\/font><\/td>\n<\/font>+14.7%<\/font><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
<\/font>207<\/font><\/td>\n<\/font>Farris, G. Steven<\/font><\/td>\n<\/font>Apache<\/font><\/td>\n<\/font>-26.3%<\/font><\/td>\n<\/font>$10.2 Million<\/font><\/td>\n<\/font>-9.0%<\/font><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
<\/font>237<\/font><\/td>\n<\/font>Jennings, Michael C.<\/font><\/td>\n<\/font>HollyFrontier<\/font><\/td>\n<\/font>-19.2%<\/font><\/td>\n<\/font>$8.8 Million<\/font><\/td>\n<\/font>-15.1%<\/font><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
<\/font>259<\/font><\/td>\n<\/font>Stevens, Jeff A.<\/font><\/td>\n<\/font>Western Refining<\/font><\/td>\n<\/font>-4.1%<\/font><\/td>\n<\/font>$7.3 Million<\/font><\/td>\n<\/font>+101.1%<\/font><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
<\/font>264<\/font><\/td>\n<\/font>Chazen, Stephen I.<\/font><\/td>\n<\/font>Occidental Petroleum<\/font><\/td>\n<\/font>-9.2%<\/font><\/td>\n<\/font>$6.8 Million<\/font><\/td>\n<\/font>-1.4%<\/font><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
<\/font>284<\/font><\/td>\n<\/font>Nimbley, Thomas J.<\/font><\/td>\n<\/font>PBF Energy<\/font><\/td>\n<\/font>-11.4%<\/font><\/td>\n<\/font>$4.7 Million<\/font><\/td>\n<\/font>+23.9%<\/font><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
<\/font>286<\/font><\/td>\n<\/font>Lipinski, John J.<\/font><\/td>\n<\/font>CVR Energy<\/font><\/td>\n<\/font>-0.9%<\/font><\/td>\n<\/font>$3.9 Million<\/font><\/td>\n<\/font>-70.5%<\/font><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
<\/font>300<\/font><\/td>\n<\/font>Kinder, Richard D.<\/font><\/td>\n<\/font>Kinder Morgan<\/font><\/td>\n<\/font>+23.3%<\/font><\/td>\n<\/font>$1<\/font><\/td>\n<\/font>+0.0%<\/font><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table><\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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Latest from the WSJ\u2026on CEO pay<\/p>\n

Selectively I picked the oil and gas group as I have way too much holding in that group as far as investments\u2026 didn\u2019t sell enough when I should have but \u2026. oh well\u2026 <\/p>\n

Two in particular stick out to me\u2026comparable service company CEO\u2019s\u2026 one stock only went down 3.6% but the CEO pay dropped 18.9%\u2026 the other the stock dropped by 21.6% and he only lost 1.5% in pay?  <\/p>\n

Who is getting paid for performance here?  <\/p>\n

57 Lesar, David J. Halliburton -21.6% $20.6 Million -1.5% 78 Kibsgaard, Paal Schlumberger -3.6% $18.5 Million -18.9% <\/p>\n

But in comparison to the total of the oil and gas industry big shot?  <\/p>\n

CEO Pay vs. Performance <\/p>\n

Executive compensation <\/p>\n

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