{"id":539,"date":"2010-05-31T01:25:28","date_gmt":"2010-05-31T01:25:28","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/ishmaels.net\/blog\/?p=539"},"modified":"2018-11-11T21:32:53","modified_gmt":"2018-11-11T21:32:53","slug":"investing-attitude-change-needed","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.ishmaels.net\/blog\/2010\/05\/31\/investing-attitude-change-needed\/","title":{"rendered":"Investing &#8211; attitude change needed"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I still have a <strong class='StrictlyAutoTagBold'>problem<\/strong> of selling <strong class='StrictlyAutoTagBold'>stocks<\/strong> when I know I <strong class='StrictlyAutoTagBold'>need<\/strong> to dump &#8211; profit or not.<br \/>\nI have read enough to know that long-<strong class='StrictlyAutoTagBold'>term<\/strong> holding of <strong class='StrictlyAutoTagBold'>stocks<\/strong> may be a moot issue right now for several reasons.<br \/>\n1. I may not have a long-<strong class='StrictlyAutoTagBold'>term<\/strong> horizon at my age, although it is longer than a <strong class='StrictlyAutoTagBold'>lot<\/strong> of <strong class='StrictlyAutoTagBold'>investors<\/strong>.<br \/>\n2. Economic outlooks with tremendously high sovereign debts, population growth, Government inability to get a handle on debts, Governments throwing (Growing) money at &#8220;crap shoots&#8221;, comsumers appearing to be paying down some debts, etc&#8230;<br \/>\n3.  The multiple leveraged positions &#8211; include personal loans outstanding and business loans.<br \/>\n4.  Even Jim Cramer has been spouting of late that &#8220;long-<strong class='StrictlyAutoTagBold'>term<\/strong> holding is dead&#8221;&#8230; <\/p>\n<p>The reality and most important stuff I see from all of it is &#8211; invest when &#8220;you&#8221; think it will appreciate in value or pay enough dividend to be worthwhile. Get the Hell out when any of your reasons for getting in have changed&#8230; Take the <strong class='StrictlyAutoTagBold'>loss<\/strong> and learn from that &#8211; rework your evaluations and try not to make as many mistakes the next time&#8230; (wonderful advice &#8211; near impossible to accomplish? ). But in my case I have hung with <strong class='StrictlyAutoTagBold'>stocks<\/strong> because I just knew they would come back&#8230; Bull&#8230; when they get in trouble you better get out and look for something better that has a chance to grow&#8230; no matter&#8230; They may come back but you have no clue when&#8230; Read this today and worth sticking in here:<\/p>\n<p>Bill Gross recently stated: &#8220;The burden of debt can take decades to accumulate, but only a few short months to change course into crisis. Many investors, economists and politicians alike have little understanding of why attitudes and lending standards can reverse so quickly\u2026They operate with the mindset that markets, jobs and economies will \u201ccome back.\u201d \u201cI\u2019ll just wait \u2018till it comes back\u201d is the common saw amongst underwater investors, just as \u201csomething will turn up\u201d is a sad refrain of many unemployed or underemployed workers. Sometimes it doesn\u2019t come back\u2026&#8221;<br \/>\nThis is the <strong class='StrictlyAutoTagBold'>problem<\/strong> that Japan has been facing for the last 25 years. By putting assets on their books at &#8220;face value&#8221; and waiting for prices to come back, combined with low-interest rates, massive liquidity injections and Keynesian policies the country has been mired in a slow growth economic environment. Like Bill Gross stated above ? &#8220;&#8230;Sometimes it doesn&#8217;t come back&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>I <strong class='StrictlyAutoTagBold'>need<\/strong> to remember this and practice &#8220;stop-loss&#8221; selling a whole <strong class='StrictlyAutoTagBold'>lot<\/strong> more in the future&#8230; for both good and bad stocks&#8230; take some off the winners, dump the losers before they take it all&#8230; <\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I still have a problem of selling stocks when I know I need to dump &#8211; profit or not. I have read enough to know that long-term holding of stocks may be a moot issue right now for several reasons. 1. I may not have a long-term horizon at my age, although it is longer than a lot of investors. 2. Economic outlooks with tremendously high sovereign debts, population growth, Government inability to get a handle on debts, Governments throwing (Growing) money at &#8220;crap shoots&#8221;, comsumers appearing to be paying down some debts, etc&#8230; 3. The multiple leveraged positions &#8211; include personal loans outstanding and business loans. 4. Even Jim Cramer has been spouting of late that &#8220;long-term holding is dead&#8221;&#8230; <\/p>\n<p>The reality and <\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.ishmaels.net\/blog\/2010\/05\/31\/investing-attitude-change-needed\/\">&#8220;And Now the Rest of the Story &#8211; &#8220;Investing &#8211; attitude change needed<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":false,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-539","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uncategorized","odd"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v27.4 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>Investing - attitude change needed - And That was How it Went<\/title>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/www.ishmaels.net\/blog\/2010\/05\/31\/investing-attitude-change-needed\/\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"en_US\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"Investing - attitude change needed - And That was How it Went\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"I still have a problem of selling stocks when I know I need to dump &#8211; profit or not. 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The value will go up, the product produced will go up and our return will be better than current rates offered at the bank. Past 30 years the farm land has been a stable\u2026","rel":"","context":"Similar post","block_context":{"text":"Similar post","link":""},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"","width":0,"height":0},"classes":[]},{"id":5012,"url":"https:\/\/www.ishmaels.net\/blog\/2011\/02\/21\/5-more-year-of-the-bear-or-not\/","url_meta":{"origin":539,"position":3},"title":"5 more years of the Bear or not?","author":"wd0ajg","date":"February 21, 2011","format":false,"excerpt":"I read this and then read it again.\u00a0 Interesting and thought provoking.\u00a0 If we could only glance into the crystal ball and know when to get out once and back in at the proper time.\u00a0 But alas that is not possible.\u00a0 I have been selling some stocks this year, clearing\u2026","rel":"","context":"In \"BBS\"","block_context":{"text":"BBS","link":"https:\/\/www.ishmaels.net\/blog\/tag\/bbs\/"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.thereformedbroker.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/02\/antigravity.png?resize=350%2C200","width":350,"height":200},"classes":[]},{"id":14906,"url":"https:\/\/www.ishmaels.net\/blog\/2013\/10\/08\/10-dividend-stocks-for-the-ultimate-in-deferred-gratification\/","url_meta":{"origin":539,"position":4},"title":"10 Dividend Stocks For The Ultimate In Deferred Gratification","author":"wd0ajg","date":"October 8, 2013","format":false,"excerpt":"Ok, I have some of these but maybe I need a few more for my \"gratification\" accounts... \u00a0comments in\u00a0Italics... via Dividend Growth Stocks Dividend Growth Stocks For The Long-Term Below are several dividend growth stocks that provide a good mix of yield and growth that result in an 8-10%Yield on\u2026","rel":"","context":"In \"Abundance Economics\"","block_context":{"text":"Abundance Economics","link":"https:\/\/www.ishmaels.net\/blog\/tag\/abundance-economics\/"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"","width":0,"height":0},"classes":[]},{"id":4995,"url":"https:\/\/www.ishmaels.net\/blog\/2011\/02\/20\/oil-stocks-are-high-but-is-there-more\/","url_meta":{"origin":539,"position":5},"title":"Oil stocks are high but is there more?","author":"wd0ajg","date":"February 20, 2011","format":false,"excerpt":"Took this from the BESPOKE site.\u00a0 I am wondering the same thoughts, are the oil stocks ahead of the oil price or is this a trend that can continue?\u00a0\u00a0 I question on this as I work in this industry and have a lot of investments in it.\u00a0\u00a0 I think that\u2026","rel":"","context":"Similar post","block_context":{"text":"Similar post","link":""},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"","width":0,"height":0},"classes":[]}],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.ishmaels.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/539","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.ishmaels.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.ishmaels.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.ishmaels.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.ishmaels.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=539"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/www.ishmaels.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/539\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":17165,"href":"https:\/\/www.ishmaels.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/539\/revisions\/17165"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.ishmaels.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=539"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.ishmaels.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=539"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.ishmaels.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=539"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}