{"id":5288,"date":"2011-03-14T05:35:00","date_gmt":"2011-03-14T11:35:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/ishmaels.net\/blog\/?p=5288"},"modified":"2011-03-14T05:35:00","modified_gmt":"2011-03-14T11:35:00","slug":"boon-docking-in-the-rv-part-2-usfs-and-other-good-rules","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.ishmaels.net\/blog\/2011\/03\/14\/boon-docking-in-the-rv-part-2-usfs-and-other-good-rules\/","title":{"rendered":"Boondocking in the RV part 2 \u2013 USFS and other good rules"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>This was in the original page I found but I felt maybe I Needed to split it up a little \u2013 as time goes I may update this when I find more \u201cgood rules\u201d to put in here. I really like the fly and tick home made repellant below and I will be making up a spray bottle of that to test , maybe even before we get out in the <strong>RV<\/strong>.&#160;&#160; I found this for <a href=\"http:\/\/www.telusplanet.net\/public\/waters\/rules.htm\" target=\"_blank\">BLM rules (Arizona)<\/a> and I had no idea some of this applied so I would have been in trouble \u2013 always good to do your research before you get out there.&#160; Just like you really should ask before you park at a Wal-Mart parking <strong class='StrictlyAutoTagBold'>lot<\/strong> too.&#160; I hate those campers that use Wal-Mart for multiple days in a row, just because they are too cheap or too lazy to find a real camping spot. Saw <strong class='StrictlyAutoTagBold'>one<\/strong> of those in the Salida Wal-Mart <strong class='StrictlyAutoTagBold'>lot<\/strong> several years ago.&#160; We had pulled into <strong class='StrictlyAutoTagBold'>one<\/strong> of our favorite private parks \u2013 <strong class='StrictlyAutoTagBold'>one<\/strong> that is hidden and if you don\u2019t know you will pass it right by, but it is across the road and down behind an Adventure place.&#160; Anyway we camped there with electric and <strong class='StrictlyAutoTagBold'>water<\/strong> for not much a day.&#160; We were going out every day while there to see things in the area and the same motorhome was camped in the corner of the Wal-Mart <strong class='StrictlyAutoTagBold'>lot<\/strong> for 3 or 4 days.&#160; Had the slides out and had no intention of finding anything else.&#160; They also had a big \u201csooners\u201d sticker on the motorhome and jeep they parked there.&#160; Just another reason to hate their (sooners) attitude.&#160; Now for all those fans \u2013 don\u2019t get all hot and bothered about it, I have a degree from OU, do you? &#8211; WD0AJG<\/p>\n<h4>&#160;<\/h4>\n<h4>Official USFS Rules<\/h4>\n<p>The following comes from the <strong>US<\/strong> Forest Service South Park Ranger District of Colorado&#8217;s Pike National Forest. The same rules apply to <strong>RV<\/strong> camping, and finding some great campsites is easy once you get some experience finding the type of camping location you desire. <\/p>\n<p>DISPERSED CAMPING <\/p>\n<p>MINIMAL IMPACT CAMPING TECHNIQUES <\/p>\n<p>PLAN your trip, know what it is you wish to experience, think about the time of year and expected weather. This is part of the outdoor adventure and should always be your first step. After you have selected the area you would like to visit, contact the South Park Ranger District for answers to any questions you might have and to learn about any special regulations in the area. When planning where you are going to go, be sure you are on National Forest Service System land. <\/p>\n<p>CONCENTRATE your impacts in heavily used areas. Many of the areas that are easily accessible receive heavy use during the summer months. If there is a <strong class='StrictlyAutoTagBold'>fire<\/strong> ring at the area do not build a new one, sometimes that means that you will have to clean out the old <strong class='StrictlyAutoTagBold'>fire<\/strong> ring )don&#8217;t forget that collapsible shovel). We all have to do our part to keep these areas open for folks who prefer this type of experience. <\/p>\n<p><strong class='StrictlyAutoTagBold'>CAMP<\/strong> at least 200 feet from <strong class='StrictlyAutoTagBold'>water<\/strong>. This practice is important for a variety of reasons. A campsite located on stream banks or lake shores can create visual impacts and detract from the sense of solitude. Accordingly, it is also important that you camp far enough from roads and trails that the <strong class='StrictlyAutoTagBold'>site<\/strong> is screened from other campers. By camping close to <strong class='StrictlyAutoTagBold'>water<\/strong> you risk contaminating the <strong class='StrictlyAutoTagBold'>water<\/strong>. Remember, <strong class='StrictlyAutoTagBold'>water<\/strong> is very important to the wildlife who live in the area, they need easy access to and from <strong class='StrictlyAutoTagBold'>water<\/strong> sources and your presence may disturb their normal behavior. <\/p>\n<p>PACK IT IN, PACK IT OUT. Dispersed areas do not have <strong class='StrictlyAutoTagBold'>trash<\/strong> services and rarely receive clean-up services. Please do not put glass or aluminum (even those <strong class='StrictlyAutoTagBold'>food<\/strong> packages that appear to be made of paper often have foil liners that do not burn) into the <strong class='StrictlyAutoTagBold'>fire<\/strong>. This practice is unsightly and makes the <strong class='StrictlyAutoTagBold'>site<\/strong> less attractive to the next user. All <strong class='StrictlyAutoTagBold'>food<\/strong> scrapes and <strong class='StrictlyAutoTagBold'>trash<\/strong> should be taken home with you, or take it to the nearest landfill if you are on a long journey. <\/p>\n<p>PROPERLY DISPOSE of Human Waste. This is not something you were taught in school, maybe it should have been. Human feces not properly disposed of is not only unsightly, but can actually create health hazards. Catholes are the most widely accepted method of back county human waste disposal (again, that collapsible shovel comes in handy). <\/p>\n<p>1. Select a <strong class='StrictlyAutoTagBold'>site<\/strong> that is far from any <strong class='StrictlyAutoTagBold'>water<\/strong> sources, 300 feet is a good, safe distance. The <strong class='StrictlyAutoTagBold'>site<\/strong> should be inconspicuous and where someone would not naturally be walking. If you are camping with a large group or camping the same <strong class='StrictlyAutoTagBold'>site<\/strong> for more than <strong class='StrictlyAutoTagBold'>one<\/strong> night, you should spread the cathole sites over a large area. Try to find a spot with deep organic material, which will help decompose the feces. If possible, locate your cathole where it will receive maximum sunlight, this will also aid in decomposition. Chose an elevated <strong class='StrictlyAutoTagBold'>site<\/strong> where <strong class='StrictlyAutoTagBold'>water<\/strong> would not normally pool. <\/p>\n<p>2. Now you are ready to dig. Your hole should be 6-8 inches deep and 4-6 inches in diameter. If you hit a rock or root which prevents you from reaching the correct depth, you should find another <strong class='StrictlyAutoTagBold'>site<\/strong> (early planning comes into play). Toilet paper is a strong attractant to small rodents and should be packed home with your other <strong class='StrictlyAutoTagBold'>trash<\/strong>. When finished, the cathole should be filled in with the previously removed dirt and disguised with native materials. <\/p>\n<p>CAMPFIRE BUILDING and wood collection. Campfires were once thought to be a necessity and are built in history and tradition. Attitudes toward campfires are changing. The new perception of their use is a direct result of past misuse of campfires, and the sometimes ugly and negative impacts caused when fires are built incorrectly, built in the wrong locations or left unattended. If you choose to have a campfire, you are choosing a very large responsibility. <\/p>\n<p>1. Your first step is to choose a location for your <strong class='StrictlyAutoTagBold'>fire<\/strong>. If there is an existing <strong class='StrictlyAutoTagBold'>fire<\/strong> ring, use it. If it is a bad location, move it to a better location and clean up all remnants in its original location. Never <strong class='StrictlyAutoTagBold'>place<\/strong> a campfire within the radius of the largest branches on a tree. Fire can actually travel through the tree&#8217;s root system and cause a forest <strong class='StrictlyAutoTagBold'>fire<\/strong>. Never build a <strong class='StrictlyAutoTagBold'>fire<\/strong> close to a rock or other natural object where the <strong class='StrictlyAutoTagBold'>fire<\/strong> will scorch the object and leave lasting impacts of your visit. <\/p>\n<p>2. Next, you will need to collect firewood. There is only <strong class='StrictlyAutoTagBold'>one<\/strong> type of wood that is acceptable for building a low impact campfire; this is dead and downed wood. Breaking branches off of a live standing tree leaves a very discernible and long lasting impact. Firewood size is very critical. A good rule of thumb is if the wood is too large to break with your hands or by stepping on it, then it is too large to burn. Keep the firewood in its natural lengths, breaking into smaller pieces as you feed the <strong class='StrictlyAutoTagBold'>fire<\/strong>. If there is any unburned wood left when breaking camp, it can be scattered around the forest and will blend in naturally. <\/p>\n<p>3. Finally, remember to clean up after your <strong class='StrictlyAutoTagBold'>fire<\/strong>. The intent is to get other campers to use the same <strong class='StrictlyAutoTagBold'>fire<\/strong> ring. Cleaning up the <strong class='StrictlyAutoTagBold'>fire<\/strong> ring of any <strong class='StrictlyAutoTagBold'>food<\/strong> waste and trash, burning wood completely and scattering the cooled coals and ashes will make it more likely that it will be used again. <\/p>\n<p>HELPFUL TIPS <\/p>\n<p>BEARS &#8211; Help keep bears alive AND in their natural habitat! When you go to the mountains and forest, you are in bear county. Do not leave ANY food, refuse or other bear attractant unattended. It is prohibited by Special Order. Unless <strong class='StrictlyAutoTagBold'>food<\/strong> is being eaten, prepared or transported\/store it in bear resistant containers. <\/p>\n<p>KEEP THE FOREST WILD &#8211; Help the wildlife stay wild! <\/p>\n<p>The wild animals in National Forests are part of an intricate web of life. When we feed these animals, we alter this natural balance. Unnaturally high populations may be created. The animals, ability to find <strong class='StrictlyAutoTagBold'>food<\/strong> in the winter&#8211;when visitors are gone&#8211;may be damaged. We can be affected too. Animals sometimes bite and some of them are infected with rabies or fleas which spread bubonic plague. Help to protect the wildlife and yourself. Show them the respect they deserve and let the animals find their own natural <strong class='StrictlyAutoTagBold'>food<\/strong>. <\/p>\n<p>NOXIOUS WEEDS <\/p>\n<p>A noxious weed is any non-native plant that grows unchecked by natural enemies, like insects or diseases. Noxious weeds displace native plants, thereby robbing wildlife and livestock of natural <strong class='StrictlyAutoTagBold'>food<\/strong> sources and nesting sites. They steal <strong class='StrictlyAutoTagBold'>water<\/strong> and nutrients from native plants and disrupt the ecosystem. Some are harmful or fatal to animals. Contact your local Forest Service Office, County Extension Office or County Weed Control Office to obtain more information on recognizing, eradicating and preventing the spread of noxious weeds where you live, work and\/or play. <\/p>\n<p>HIGH ALTITUDE <\/p>\n<p>You may notice that your breathing is faster or deeper and you may feel short of breath, especially when you exercise. This is the body&#8217;s first and most effective response to altitude. Your heart is likely to beat faster also; this too is a helpful, normal reaction. Once you arrive, take it easy for the first day of two. Reduce consumption of alcohol, caffeine and salty foods. Drink more <strong class='StrictlyAutoTagBold'>water<\/strong> than usual. Altitude illness feels very much like flu or a hangover, but is much more serious. Do not push. If you feel worse or the symptoms do not go away soon, get medical help! <\/p>\n<p>SUNBURN <\/p>\n<p>The sun has more power in the thin air, and a bad sunburn can spoil your stay. No matter how tanned you may be, use a protective cream. &quot;Cold sores&quot; are aggravated at high altitude but might be prevented by a medicine which your doctor can prescribe. Sunburn of the eyes is a real danger, even on foggy or cloudy days. Wear sunglasses or goggles with ultraviolet protection. <\/p>\n<p>TICK\/FLY SPRAY RECIPE <\/p>\n<p>2 cups white vinegar 1 cup Skin-So-Soft bath oil 1 cup <strong class='StrictlyAutoTagBold'>water<\/strong> <\/p>\n<p>1 Tablespoon eucalyptus oil (available at drugstores &amp; health <strong class='StrictlyAutoTagBold'>food<\/strong> stores) <\/p>\n<p>This homemade spray does not contain aerosols to pollute the environment, nor chemicals to contaminate the ground and it works. We have reports of successful use on animals as well. <\/p>\n<p>Portions of this page printed from: http:\/\/www.fs.fed.<strong>us<\/strong>\/r2\/psicc\/recreation\/camping\/ <\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.roadtripamerica.com\/guides.htm#jhall\">Boondocking Etiquette by Jaimie Hall<\/a><\/p>\n<p><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" height=\"10\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.roadtripamerica.com\/table_frame_gray_object_top_left.gif?resize=10%2C10\" width=\"10\" \/>    <br \/><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" height=\"10\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.roadtripamerica.com\/table_frame_gray_object_top_right.gif?resize=10%2C10\" width=\"10\" \/><\/p>\n<p><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" height=\"165\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.roadtripamerica.com\/rv\/RV-Boondocking-Etiquette-03.jpg?resize=200%2C165\" width=\"200\" border=\"1\" \/><\/p>\n<p><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" height=\"11\" alt=\"Jaimie Hall-Bruzenak\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.roadtripamerica.com\/credits\/Jaimie-Hall-Bruzenak.gif?resize=115%2C11\" width=\"115\" \/><\/p>\n<p>Boondocking in <a href=\"http:\/\/www.roadtripamerica.com\/rv\/Quartzsite.htm\">Quartzsite, Arizona<\/a><\/p>\n<p><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" height=\"10\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.roadtripamerica.com\/table_frame_gray_object_bottom_left.gif?resize=10%2C10\" width=\"10\" \/>    <br \/><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" height=\"10\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.roadtripamerica.com\/table_frame_gray_object_bottom_right.gif?resize=10%2C10\" width=\"10\" \/><\/p>\n<p><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" height=\"10\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.roadtripamerica.com\/table_frame_gray_object_top_left.gif?resize=10%2C10\" width=\"10\" \/>    <br \/><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" height=\"10\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.roadtripamerica.com\/table_frame_gray_object_top_right.gif?resize=10%2C10\" width=\"10\" \/><\/p>\n<p><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" height=\"133\" alt=\"Solar water heaters\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.roadtripamerica.com\/rv\/RV-Boondocking-Etiquette-01.jpg?resize=200%2C133\" width=\"200\" border=\"1\" \/><\/p>\n<p><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" height=\"11\" alt=\"George Bruzenak\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.roadtripamerica.com\/rv\/GeorgeBruzenak.gif?resize=90%2C11\" width=\"90\" \/><\/p>\n<p>Boondocking solar <strong class='StrictlyAutoTagBold'>water<\/strong> heaters<\/p>\n<p><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" height=\"10\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.roadtripamerica.com\/table_frame_gray_object_bottom_left.gif?resize=10%2C10\" width=\"10\" \/>    <br \/><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" height=\"10\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.roadtripamerica.com\/table_frame_gray_object_bottom_right.gif?resize=10%2C10\" width=\"10\" \/><\/p>\n<p><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" height=\"10\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.roadtripamerica.com\/table_frame_gray_object_top_left.gif?resize=10%2C10\" width=\"10\" \/>    <br \/><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" height=\"10\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.roadtripamerica.com\/table_frame_gray_object_top_right.gif?resize=10%2C10\" width=\"10\" \/><\/p>\n<p><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" height=\"153\" alt=\"Solar oven\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.roadtripamerica.com\/rv\/RV-Boondocking-Etiquette-02.jpg?resize=200%2C153\" width=\"200\" border=\"1\" \/>    <br \/><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" height=\"11\" alt=\"George Bruzenak\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.roadtripamerica.com\/rv\/GeorgeBruzenak.gif?resize=90%2C11\" width=\"90\" \/><\/p>\n<p>Boondocking gear: Solar oven<\/p>\n<p><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" height=\"10\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.roadtripamerica.com\/table_frame_gray_object_bottom_left.gif?resize=10%2C10\" width=\"10\" \/>    <br \/><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" height=\"10\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.roadtripamerica.com\/table_frame_gray_object_bottom_right.gif?resize=10%2C10\" width=\"10\" \/><\/p>\n<p><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" height=\"10\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.roadtripamerica.com\/table_frame_gray_object_top_left.gif?resize=10%2C10\" width=\"10\" \/>    <br \/><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" height=\"10\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.roadtripamerica.com\/table_frame_gray_object_top_right.gif?resize=10%2C10\" width=\"10\" \/><\/p>\n<p><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" height=\"174\" alt=\"Boondocking in a national forest\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.roadtripamerica.com\/rv\/Campgrounds04.jpg?resize=202%2C174\" width=\"202\" \/><\/p>\n<p>&quot;primitive&quot; campsite in a national forest<\/p>\n<p><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" height=\"10\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.roadtripamerica.com\/table_frame_gray_object_bottom_left.gif?resize=10%2C10\" width=\"10\" \/>    <br \/><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" height=\"10\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.roadtripamerica.com\/table_frame_gray_object_bottom_right.gif?resize=10%2C10\" width=\"10\" \/><\/p>\n<p>&quot;Boondocking&quot; means camping in your <strong>RV<\/strong> with no hookups. There are two types of boondocking. One type is parking in more out-of-the-way places, usually for several days or even an extended period of time. Public lands offer many opportunities for boondocking.<\/p>\n<p>The other type of boondocking is often referred to as &quot;blacktop boondocking,&quot; that is when you camp overnight on a Wal-Mart or shopping center parking <strong class='StrictlyAutoTagBold'>lot<\/strong> or in a truck stop. Some call it dry camping since you are not in the &quot;boonies.&quot; RVers choose to spend the night on parking lots because of convenience-they don&#8217;t have to drive miles off the highway to a campground. Other RVers boondock because of budget reasons; they can&#8217;t see paying $20 or more a night to stay in an <strong>RV<\/strong> park when they are traveling from point A to point B and won&#8217;t be using the amenities the park has to offer. Whichever type of boondocker you are, these guidelines will help you (and your neighbors) have a better experience.<\/p>\n<p><b>BLACKTOP BOONDOCKING<\/b><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Get permission from the manager. <\/li>\n<li>Purchase dinner, fuel or other items as a thank you. <\/li>\n<li>Park away from other vehicles, along the sides of the parking <strong class='StrictlyAutoTagBold'>lot<\/strong>. In a truck stop, if there is no designated area for RVs, park off to the side or to the back away from truckers. Truckers will appreciate you not taking their spaces, plus it will be less noisy for you. <\/li>\n<li>Do not get chairs and barbeque out, nor put out your awning. Avoid using your slideouts if possible. <\/li>\n<li>Stay only <strong class='StrictlyAutoTagBold'>one<\/strong> night. <\/li>\n<li>Pick up any <strong class='StrictlyAutoTagBold'>trash<\/strong> you have generated. <\/li>\n<li>Because boondocking on Wal-Mart&#8217;s parking <strong class='StrictlyAutoTagBold'>lot<\/strong> is a hot issue in many towns, following these simple rules will help keep these places open to travelers who want a night&#8217;s sleep before moving on. Disregarding them, especially making your area look like you&#8217;ve moved in for a lengthy stay, is what gets local <strong>RV<\/strong> park owners up in arms. They see RVs in a Wal-Mart or other parking <strong class='StrictlyAutoTagBold'>lot<\/strong> as revenue they should have had. Escapees <strong>RV<\/strong> Club provides <a href=\"http:\/\/www.escapees.com\/Boondocking.asp\">Boondocking Etiquette<\/a> cards you can download and then leave on an individual&#8217;s windshield who is not following these guidelines and jeopardizing the rights of other <strong>RV<\/strong> travelers as well.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><b>BOONDOCKING IN THE &quot;BOONIES&quot;<\/b><\/p>\n<p>When we think of regular boondocking, we think more of camping in wilderness areas, often on public lands. Campgrounds in public lands generally do not provide hookups. The USDA Forest Service and Bureau of Land Management (BLM) also allow camping outside their designated campgrounds. In some places, it is called &quot;dispersed camping.&quot;<\/p>\n<p>Serious boondockers modify their RVs so they can take advantage of free camping in pretty places. Solar panels and an inverter keep batteries charged. A catalytic or ceramic heater is more efficient than the regular <strong>RV<\/strong> heater and doesn&#8217;t draw down the battery. Boondockers may have a Blue Boy\u00ae, a portable waste holding tank, so they can take blackwater into a dump. They carry <strong class='StrictlyAutoTagBold'>water<\/strong> jugs to haul <strong class='StrictlyAutoTagBold'>water<\/strong> to their fresh <strong class='StrictlyAutoTagBold'>water<\/strong> tank. Boondockers learn how to conserve both power and <strong class='StrictlyAutoTagBold'>water<\/strong> so they can extend their stays and may even use solar ovens for cooking and heat <strong class='StrictlyAutoTagBold'>water<\/strong> with the sun. (To learn more about how to boondock effectively, see the<a href=\"http:\/\/www.rvlifestyleexperts.com\/free-rv-info\/boondocking\/boondocking-making-it-work\/\">article by Paul Bernhagen at RVHometown.com<\/a>)<\/p>\n<p>Most campers are here for a wilderness experience; they enjoy the peace and quiet. Following these guidelines will help all enjoy their stay as well as protect the environment.<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Park in previously used areas. Do not create a new road or parking spot or run over vegetation. <\/li>\n<li>Park away from other RVs so each can enjoy the peace and quiet. If you do have a generator you plan to run, park far away from other RVs and limit your use to an hour or so in the morning and another in early evening. Generator noise carries and is not part of the wilderness experience. <\/li>\n<li>Respect quiet hours. Do not run generators or play TVs or radios loudly after 10 p.m. or before 7 a.m. (Some areas may have different quiet hours so check with the agency.) <\/li>\n<li>In some areas dumping grey <strong class='StrictlyAutoTagBold'>water<\/strong> on the ground is permissible. Always check with the agency first. Dumping black <strong class='StrictlyAutoTagBold'>water<\/strong> on the ground is never permitted. <\/li>\n<li>Leave the area cleaner than you found it. Dispose of <strong class='StrictlyAutoTagBold'>trash<\/strong> in a <strong class='StrictlyAutoTagBold'>trash<\/strong> container after you leave. <\/li>\n<li>Read and follow the agency&#8217;s rules regarding fires, collecting firewood, and quiet hours. Respect time limits, which are typically 14 days.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><strong>RV<\/strong> groups meeting on public lands should choose an area large enough to accommodate their group without damaging the environment and should respect the rights of nearby campers that are not part of the group. They should also educate their members, who may never have boondocked before, on ways to extend their battery power without constantly running their generators and on ways to conserve <strong class='StrictlyAutoTagBold'>water<\/strong>.<\/p>\n<p>For many RVers, boondocking is the true <strong>RV<\/strong> experience. The ability to camp without hookups is <strong class='StrictlyAutoTagBold'>one<\/strong> of the advantages of <strong>RV<\/strong> ownership; you can camp free of charge and use the systems that were designed to be self-contained. Using courtesy and common sense can make your boondocking experience-whether on blacktop or in the wilderness-a good <strong class='StrictlyAutoTagBold'>one<\/strong> for you and other RVers.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.roadtripamerica.com\/guides.htm#jhall\">Jaimie Hall-Bruzenak<\/a>    <br \/>4\/1\/07<\/p>\n<p>Boondocking locations can be found on the Internet on <strong>RV<\/strong> forums and newsgroups. Local chamber of commerce offices and visitor centers are good places to inquire at too. Talking to other RVers is <strong class='StrictlyAutoTagBold'>one<\/strong> of the best ways to find new places, but be aware that many people don&#8217;t want to share their favorite <strong>RV<\/strong> camping and boondocking sites. Finding great <strong>RV<\/strong> camping and boondocking sites can be a bit of work, but with some research and exploration, you should find exactly what you are looking for.&#160;&#160; One really good <strong class='StrictlyAutoTagBold'>site<\/strong> is <a href=\"http:\/\/www.rv.net\/forum\/\"><strong class='StrictlyAutoTagBold'>RV<\/strong> NET FORUM<\/a>.&#160; <\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/search?ie=UTF8&amp;keywords=boondocking&amp;tag=rvcampinginfo-%2020&amp;index=books&amp;linkCode=ur2&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325\">More Boondocking Resources<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>This was in the original page I found but I felt maybe I Needed to split it up a little \u2013 as time goes I may update this when I find more \u201cgood rules\u201d to put in here. 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