{"id":4995,"date":"2011-02-20T12:59:00","date_gmt":"2011-02-20T18:59:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/ishmaels.net\/blog\/?p=4995"},"modified":"2011-02-20T12:59:00","modified_gmt":"2011-02-20T18:59:00","slug":"oil-stocks-are-high-but-is-there-more","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.ishmaels.net\/blog\/2011\/02\/20\/oil-stocks-are-high-but-is-there-more\/","title":{"rendered":"Oil stocks are high but is there more?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Took this from the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.bespokeinvest.com\/thinkbig\/2011\/2\/18\/oil-vs-oil-stocks.html\" target=\"_blank\">BESPOKE<\/a> site.&#160; I am wondering the same thoughts, are the oil <strong class='StrictlyAutoTagBold'>stocks<\/strong> ahead of the oil price or is this a trend that can continue?&#160;&#160; I question on this as I work in this industry and have a lot of investments in it.&#160;&#160; I think that as long as oil stays in the $70 &#8211; $90 <strong class='StrictlyAutoTagBold'>range<\/strong> we will see the company <strong class='StrictlyAutoTagBold'>stocks<\/strong> continue up.&#160; the <strong class='StrictlyAutoTagBold'>PE<\/strong> for most of these is at low compared to many other sectors but the past has also been \u201cboom\u201d and \u201cbust\u201d so my fear is are we aimed at a boom?&#160; I have no clue on the direction or outcome but feel that we are just in the beginnings of a unprecedented growth surge for energy companies.&#160; The reality may be that we have hit a level of available \u201creal\u201d <strong class='StrictlyAutoTagBold'>production<\/strong> and resources that will force prices to stay high relative to previous cycles.&#160; It takes so long for new <strong class='StrictlyAutoTagBold'>production<\/strong> to actually hit the market once found and the declines of old fields are extremely high at present, that even though we have no real growth in demand for many areas of the world, the supply is not pushing forward either.&#160;&#160; That , in my mind, is <strong class='StrictlyAutoTagBold'>going<\/strong> to equal \u201cPEAK OIL\u201d no matter what the final numbers are.&#160; &#8211; WD0AJG<\/p>\n<h4>&#160;<\/h4>\n<h4><a href=\"http:\/\/www.bespokeinvest.com\/thinkbig\/2011\/2\/18\/oil-vs-oil-stocks.html\">Oil vs.. 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