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WHY THE \u201cRICH\u201d DON\u2019T FEEL SO RICH <\/p>\n

<\/a><\/h4>\n

by Surly Trader<\/p>\n

By Surly Trader<\/a><\/strong><\/p>\n

In a country burdened with a lot<\/strong> of debt and a lot<\/strong> of unemployed citizens, there is going<\/strong> to be a battle to get the \u201chaves\u201d pay<\/strong> much more than the \u201chave nots\u201d.  In the last few years, the upper end of the \u201chaves\u201d are being defined as those families making more than $250,000.  The battle is usually waged about which families are defined as rich and should be forced to pay<\/strong> the highest percentage tax rate.  The truth is that those who are the most wealthy are exempt from the entire argument.<\/p>\n

After we define the cut-off point for the rich, we soften the blow for those with the largest bill by stating the fact<\/strong> that even if we raise the top tax bracket by 5%, we are light years away from the 94% highest tax bracket of 1944.  The problem with most comparisons of the top tax bracket today<\/strong> versus the top tax brackets in the past is that the top tax brackets continue to apply to a larger  and larger percentage of the population.  As an example, take the 94% tax bracket in 1944 which applied to incomes<\/strong> above $200,000.  In inflation adjusted dollars, the top tax bracket in 1944 equates to a salary of $2.5M today<\/a>.<\/p>\n

What is most interesting about the debate is the large tail distribution in incomes.  As we move up on the percentile income levels, we linearly move up\u2026.until we get to the far right and then the data skyrockets.  What this shows is that the truly rich are leagues above the rest of the population<\/strong>.<\/p>\n

\"\"<\/p>\n

The guy in the 99th percentile does not feel very rich versus his 99.9th percentile neighbor.  You might be thinking they are all making too much money, but there is another interesting aspect to this story.  Most of those with incomes<\/strong> in the $1M and up range earn their incomes<\/strong> from dividends or have their own businesses.  The dividend taxes are explicitly lower than income taxes, but the owners of corporations are able to deduct nearly all expenses and shelter as much income as needed from the IRS and are able to hire the best tax attorneys possible to achieve it.  The family making $250k-$500k will be paying their 35% federal income tax, state income tax and sales taxes directly after plugging their numbers into Taxcut.<\/p>\n

I bring this fact<\/strong> up because the media driven battle is false.  The truly rich are unaffected by the top tax bracket and are laughing their way to their yachts while the taxpayers from the 80th percentile ($100K) to 99th percentiles ($500K) are truly going<\/strong> to be squeezed like turnips.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

WHY THE \u201cRICH\u201d DON\u2019T FEEL SO RICH <\/p>\n

by Surly Trader<\/p>\n

By Surly Trader<\/p>\n

In a country burdened with a lot of debt and a lot of unemployed citizens, there is going to be a battle to get the \u201chaves\u201d pay much more than the \u201chave nots\u201d.  In the last few years, the upper end of the \u201chaves\u201d are being defined as those families making more than $250,000.  The battle is usually waged about which families are defined as rich and should be forced to pay the highest percentage tax rate.  The truth is that those who are the most wealthy are exempt from the entire argument.<\/p>\n

After we define the cut-off point for the rich, we soften the blow for those with the <\/p>\n

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