{"id":3336,"date":"2010-11-21T00:24:29","date_gmt":"2010-11-21T06:24:29","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/ishmaels.net\/blog\/?p=3336"},"modified":"2010-11-21T00:24:29","modified_gmt":"2010-11-21T06:24:29","slug":"learn-from-your-investment-mistakes","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.ishmaels.net\/blog\/2010\/11\/21\/learn-from-your-investment-mistakes\/","title":{"rendered":"Learn From Your Investment Mistakes"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I do not promote and have not visited the site listed below. &nbsp;The statements made here are good food for thought in our investing scheme. &nbsp;I have made more than my share of mistakes and my retirement account bares the scares and wounds of those mistakes. &nbsp;Stupid mistakes of following the advice of someone without checking the credibility of that advice, putting money into mutual funds and leaving it there while it made nothing in returns, &#8220;betting&#8221; on the next hot ticket without understanding the business of that &#8220;hot-ticket&#8221;, letting my bad choices go down and down and down and not having an &#8220;exit plan&#8221;. &nbsp;Some of the best advice I have seen written is before you buy investments (any kind) :<br \/>\n1. Know what it is or does that you are buying.<\/p>\n<p>2. Estimate the entry price that would give you a better chance to <strong class='StrictlyAutoTagBold'>make<\/strong> a gain, and stick to it &#8220;do not chase the hot stock&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>3. Know your exit plan &#8211; good or bad and stick to it.<\/p>\n<p>I still have problems following these simple rules as i am still learning how to research, evaluate, determine all the limits and I do <strong class='StrictlyAutoTagBold'>make<\/strong> mistakes. &nbsp;but I am now ready to accept the <strong class='StrictlyAutoTagBold'>mistake<\/strong> and move on. &nbsp; &#8211; WD0AJG<br \/>\n[ad name=&#8221;Amazon-Investing-searched-468&#215;240&#8243;]<\/p>\n<p>Every one makes investment mistakes. From the <strong class='StrictlyAutoTagBold'>time<\/strong> we were born, we learned from the mistakes we made. As investors, we <strong class='StrictlyAutoTagBold'>need<\/strong> to learn from our investment mistakes by recognizing when we <strong class='StrictlyAutoTagBold'>make<\/strong> them and <strong class='StrictlyAutoTagBold'>make<\/strong> the appropriate adjustments to our investing discipline. When we <strong class='StrictlyAutoTagBold'>make<\/strong> a losing investment, do we recognize our investing <strong class='StrictlyAutoTagBold'>mistake<\/strong> and learn from it, or do we attribute it to some outside factor, like bad <strong class='StrictlyAutoTagBold'>luck<\/strong> or the market? To <strong class='StrictlyAutoTagBold'>make<\/strong> money from your investments and beat the market, we must recognize our investing mistakes and then learn from them. Unfortunately, learning from these investing mistakes is much harder than it seems.<\/p>\n<p>Some of you may have heard of this experiment. It is an example of a failure to learn from investing mistakes during a simple <strong class='StrictlyAutoTagBold'>game<\/strong> devised by Antoine Bechara. Each player received $20. They had to <strong class='StrictlyAutoTagBold'>make<\/strong> a decision on each round of the game: invest $1 or not invest. If the decision was not to invest, the task advanced to the next round. If the decision was to invest, players would hand over one dollar to the experimenter. The experimenter would then toss a coin in view of the players. If the outcome was heads, the player lost the dollar. If the outcome landed tails up then $2.50 was added to the player&#8217;s account. The task would then move to the next round. Overall, 20 rounds were played.<\/p>\n<p>In this study there was no evidence of learning as the <strong class='StrictlyAutoTagBold'>game<\/strong> went on. As the <strong class='StrictlyAutoTagBold'>game<\/strong> progressed, the number of players who elected to play another round fell to just over 50%. If players learned over time, they would have realized that it was optimal to invest in all rounds. However, as the <strong class='StrictlyAutoTagBold'>game<\/strong> went on, fewer and fewer players made decisions to invest. They were actually becoming worse with each round. When they lost, they assumed they made an investing <strong class='StrictlyAutoTagBold'>mistake<\/strong> and decided to not play the next <strong class='StrictlyAutoTagBold'>time<\/strong>.<\/p>\n<p>So how do we learn from our investing mistakes? What techniques can we use to overcome our &#8220;bad&#8221; behavior and become better investors? The major <strong class='StrictlyAutoTagBold'>reason<\/strong> we don&#8217;t learn from our mistakes (or the mistakes of others) is that we simply don&#8217;t recognize them as such. We have a gamut of mental devices set up to protect us from the terrible truth that we regularly <strong class='StrictlyAutoTagBold'>make<\/strong> mistakes. We also become afraid to invest, when we have a losing experience, as in the experiment above. Let&#8217;s look at several of the investing <strong class='StrictlyAutoTagBold'>mistake<\/strong> behaviors we <strong class='StrictlyAutoTagBold'>need<\/strong> to overcome.<\/p>\n<p><strong>I Knew That<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Hindsight is a wonderful thing. As a Monday morning quarterback, we can always say we would have made the right decision. Looking again at the experiment mentioned above, it is easy to say, &#8220;I knew that, so I would have invested on each flip of the dice&#8221;. So why didn&#8217;t everyone do just that? In my opinion, they let their emotions rule over logical decision-making. Maybe their last several trades were losers, so they decided it was an investing <strong class='StrictlyAutoTagBold'>mistake<\/strong> and they become afraid to experience another losing trade.<\/p>\n<p>The advantage of hindsight is we can employ logic as we evaluate the decision we should have made. This allows us to avoid the emotion that gets in our way. Emotion is one of the most common investing <strong class='StrictlyAutoTagBold'>mistake<\/strong> and it is the worst enemy of any good investor. To help overcome this emotion, I recommend that every investor write down the <strong class='StrictlyAutoTagBold'>reason<\/strong> you are making the decision to invest. Documenting the logic used to <strong class='StrictlyAutoTagBold'>make<\/strong> an investment decision goes a long way to remove the emotion that leads to investment mistakes. To me the idea is to get into the position where you can say &#8220;I know that&#8221; rather than I knew that. By removing the emotion from your decision, you are using the logic you typically use in hindsight to your advantage.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Self Congratulations<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Whenever we <strong class='StrictlyAutoTagBold'>make<\/strong> a winning investment, we congratulate ourselves for making such a good decision based on our investing prowess. However, if the investment goes bad, then we often blame it on bad <strong class='StrictlyAutoTagBold'>luck<\/strong>. According to psychologists, this is a natural mechanism that we, as humans possess. As investors, it is a bad trait to have as it leads to additional investing mistakes.<\/p>\n<p>To combat this unfortunate human trait, I have found that I must document each of my trades, especially the <strong class='StrictlyAutoTagBold'>reason<\/strong> I am making the decision. I can then assess my decisions based on the outcome. Was I right for the right reason? If so, then I can claim some skill, it could still be luck, but at least I can claim skill. Was I right for some spurious reason? In which case I will keep the result because it makes me a profit, but I shouldn&#8217;t fool myself into thinking that I really knew what I was doing. I <strong class='StrictlyAutoTagBold'>need<\/strong> to analyze what I missed.<\/p>\n<p>Was I wrong for the wrong reason? I made an investing mistake, I <strong class='StrictlyAutoTagBold'>need<\/strong> to learn from it, or was I wrong for the right reason? After all, bad <strong class='StrictlyAutoTagBold'>luck<\/strong> does occur. Only by analyzing my investment decisions and the reasons for those decisions, can I hope to learn from my investing mistakes. This is an important step toward building genuine investment skill.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Luck Becomes Insight<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>The <strong class='StrictlyAutoTagBold'>market<\/strong> is comprised of a series of cause and effect actions, which are not always transparent. This cause and effect has created some interesting behaviors by some very successful people. For example, some baseball pitchers are known to not step on the white chalk line when they are playing. I am sure you have heard of many &#8220;superstitions&#8221; that people hold to be true to help them perform well.<\/p>\n<p>In an experiment by Koichi Ono&#8217;s in 1987, subjects were asked to earn points in response to a signal light. They could pull three levers, though they were not told to do anything in particular. They could see their score on a counter, but did not know that points were awarded completely independent of what they did. Nothing they did influenced the outcome in terms of points awarded. During the experiment, they observed some odd behavior as the participants tried to <strong class='StrictlyAutoTagBold'>make<\/strong> the most points possible. Most subjects developed superstitious behavior, mainly in patterns of lever pulling, but in some cases, they performed elaborate or even strenuous actions. Each of these superstitions began with a coincidence. In some cases, the participants would pull levers in a particular sequence. In other cases, even more odd behavior was observed, including a person who jumped off a table and then later jumped up to touch the ceiling to &#8220;score&#8221; points. Keep in mind the points were awarded either on a fixed <strong class='StrictlyAutoTagBold'>time<\/strong> schedule or on a variable <strong class='StrictlyAutoTagBold'>time<\/strong> schedule, not based on the action of the participant.<\/p>\n<p>The point of this is that as humans we tend to think that <strong class='StrictlyAutoTagBold'>luck<\/strong> is insight. We fail to analyze effectively the situation and the real <strong class='StrictlyAutoTagBold'>reason<\/strong> for our success or failure. In investing this behavior will lead to ruin. To help overcome our natural tendency, we must document our investing decisions and then assess the results. This assessment process helps us learn from our success and from our failures and is critical for each of us if we hope to become successful investors.<\/p>\n<p><strong><\/strong><strong class='StrictlyAutoTagBold'>Learn<\/strong> from Investment Mistakes<\/p>\n<p>To help avoid investing mistakes, what should you document before you <strong class='StrictlyAutoTagBold'>make<\/strong> an trade? I like to look at three categories regarding a stock I am considering. First, I look at a series of fundamental information such as earnings yield, return on capital, revenue growth, insider holdings, sector, and free cash flow. The fundamental information helps me identify if this is a good company with growing earnings, good management and has potential. After reviewing the appropriate financial information including SEC documents, I identify the risks inherent in the company. These risks might include competition, <strong class='StrictlyAutoTagBold'>market<\/strong> share, insider transactions, and any litigation that the company is experiencing. Here one needs to try to identify every possible risk and assess them critically. Finally, I look at the chart of the stock, seeking to identify support and resistance zones. This gives me potential entry points, exit targets, and the trailing stop loss. I complete these sections with a written trading strategy describing how I expect to <strong class='StrictlyAutoTagBold'>make<\/strong> my trades. All these investment factors should be documented before making a trade. Once the trade is complete, I review them to see what I can learn so I can avoid any investing mistakes in the future.<\/p>\n<p>To learn from our investing mistakes, we <strong class='StrictlyAutoTagBold'>need<\/strong> to document our actions before we <strong class='StrictlyAutoTagBold'>make<\/strong> the decision. We also <strong class='StrictlyAutoTagBold'>need<\/strong> to be honest with ourselves when assessing our results. As we have seen, it is quite easy for each of us to put on rose-colored glasses and think we are better investors than we really are. We <strong class='StrictlyAutoTagBold'>need<\/strong> to assess critically our investing abilities without distorting the feedback we receive from our decisions. Those of us who are able to learn this valuable skill will benefit greatly. Those of us who are unable to apply this learning will be destined to mediocrity at best and likely lose much of their capital before they quite investing.<\/p>\n<p>Hans E. Wagner<br \/>\nI began investing in high school and have remained active in the markets. A graduate of the US Air Force Academy with an MBA majoring in Finance from the University of Colorado, I continued to invest throughout my career in the US Air Force, Bank of America, Coopers &amp; Lybrand, and working for Ross Perot before retiring at 55. During that <strong class='StrictlyAutoTagBold'>time<\/strong> I have gained a very good understanding of what works and what doesn&#8217;t. I hope to impart that knowledge to others so they can achieve financial independence as well.<\/p>\n<p>Hans runs a very successful investing site at <a href=\"http:\/\/www.tradingonlinemarkets.com\" target=\"_new\">http:\/\/www.tradingonlinemarkets.com<\/a> that helps people learn to invest using proven stock <strong class='StrictlyAutoTagBold'>market<\/strong> portfolio strategies. 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